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14 April 2008 @ 01:49 pm
Musings...  
I remember when I came home after having resigned my position in New York. I was 24 years old and working for a Regional Bank (Iyo Bank) in the World Trade Center as an Assistant Credit Analyst. It was a small branch concerned only with institutional money (we bought parts of the loans of larger Japanese banks; we didn't make any loans on our own). My boss was the sole Credit Analyst at the New York office and he was teaching me the ropes. I particularly remember helping him decide if buying part of a loan a big bank (I think it was Fuji... or was it Mitsui...) was making to AMR Corp, the parent company of American Airlines. This was 1992 when United and Continental were both in trouble. I think Continental was actually under bankruptcy protection. And Eastern Airlines had just folded. His attitude was "Well, on of the American airlines has to survive."

Even though I was not only the only American in an executive position in the bank, I was the only woman in an executire position... Even though I had a great future ahead of me -- my boss was going to go back to Japan in another two years and I'd probably become Credit Analyst when he left... Even though I spoke Japanese everyday but didn't have to conform to the inherent misogyny in Japanese officeplaces... Even though I liked everyone I worked with and they liked me, I quit. One Monday morning, I spoke to my boss and told him I needed to leave the bank. I didn't line up another job. I just resigned, packed up my stuff, and moved back home to Pennsylvania.

Now, I won't lie and tell you that there weren't other things that played into my decision to go home. But my decision to leave the bank was based on one simple fact -- I didn't want to be a Credit Analyst. You see, when you've done what your boss does and you are completely capable of doing it, but it bores you to tears, there's not much you can do about that. And as I looked over the shoulders of my co-workers, I didn't like their jobs either. High finance is fun first thing in the morning when you're in a shop with a phone on each ear and everyone is screaming and waving at each other. But at the bank end of it -- where the guys in the glass box at the back of the floor pick up the phones and speak a price to those screaming guys in another shop -- it's pretty unilaterally boring.

I didn't see a future for me as a Credit Analyst. I knew I could do it. Hell, I knew I'd be brilliant at it. It's actually where I got my first taste of research because you have to know the backgrounds of companies and investigate their histories to determine if they've been a good risk in the past. Basically you had to become the walking expert on the company you were analysing. So all my college library skills came into play and my natural love of research was ignited.

But I was bored. There was nothing interesting about Credit Analysis. Not for me. And if you don't enjoy your job and you're really finding the whole banking thing to be a big snore, what do you do? Wait until you can get a job at Macy's? Wait tables while you make up your mind what to do next? Nope. You pack it in, go home, and regroup. So that's what I did.

I remember asking my parents if we could sit down and talk about what I was going to do next. I desperately wanted someone to give me some good advice. I wanted the Big Giant Head to tell me what to do. Unfortunately my parents weren't really good with advice about things they knew nothing about. I remember sitting around our kitchen table and being almost completely misunderstood. My father was absolutely convinced that I was lazy and didn't want to work and he told me I could live under his roof, but he wasn't about to give me any spending money. I remember trying to explain to my parents that I did want to work, but I wanted to work in a job where the work was meaningful and amusing to me. That's the last time I tried to explain this to a garment factory worker and a coal company truck driver. When your parents view work as a necessary evil you have to bear until you have the fortune circumstance of being permanently disabled or making it to retirement age, there's no explaining to them that you're the kind of person who has to enjoy her work. Quitting was poison and I was lazy. That was all.

My father's dream for me was for me to be an engineer. The truth of the matter is that my father's dream for himself was to be an engineer. If he had an ounce of ambition, he could have gotten scholarships and grants and all kinds of financial help. But he didn't even try. In his town in 1943, you took your high school diploma with one hand and your draft notice with the other. And when he was declared 4F... I think it killed him. He was being groomed to be a pilot when his physical results came back and they sent him home. Mum told me this. He never talked about it. For most of my life I had no idea that he hadn't been in the War like all his friends.

I remember asking him if he'd support me while I went to grad school and he said no. I think he always considered my college education a waste of time because I never "did anything" with it. So he wasn't going to allow me to just go to grad school. He thought I was being lazy. He'd only put a roof over my head while I worked. So I got a job as a secretary and went to grad school at night. That job lasted one and a half years and to this day, it is the longest I have ever held a job. Really. Ever.

It's not that I haven't tried to settle down. At some points I've been positively in love with the idea! But the desire the settle down and be a wage-slave has never coincided with the opportunity to do so. It's as if something in my fate or destiny or genetic makeup didn't want me to get a job I liked and would stick with. It's almost as if, just when I was dancing alright in the frying pan, I would get flipped and fall into the fire and have to climb out again.

What got me thinking about this is the notion of being an entrepreneur. Of entrepreneurship as a born trait, not something you can learn how to become. Maybe you can learn to be one. I don't know. I just know that I didn't learn this. This is just how I am. Entrepreneurs just plain act differently from other people. They are not easily satisfied with the work they do for other people. They are restless. They can even be judgemental of their supervisors and bosses and rail against management decisions. Needless to say, this often leads to a series of short-term employments.

My Mum still calls me on the phone and asks why I don't just get a "normal job". Her dream for me is regular paychecks and 9-5 hours. Doesn't she remember how I hated every moment at work? Can't she recall every evening when I came home and complained about some stupid boss who asked me to do things in a nonsensical manner?

Oh well. There you have it. The Monday musings of a madwoman.
 
 
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rufinia[info]rufinia on April 14th, 2008 07:41 pm (UTC)
I work for the Massachusetts Public Defenders office, supporting the unit that handles sex offender registry board cases, and cases when the commonwealth is trying to involuntarily committ someone as a sexually dangerous person. I spend my day bullying lawyers, calming down clients, and sparring with the clerks of various courts.

People seen to think that I have the world's most depressing job. What they don't get is that to me is isn't depressing- it's easily the most meaningful thing I've ever done. I help protect the rights of people who society no longer cares about. It's challanging, exciting, and filled with some of the most wonderful, wacky (because face it, to work in this area of law, you need to be wacky, it's the only way to survive), committed people ever. I've gotten to do stuff that I never would have dreamed I would have been able to do, and I found a cause that needs champions. I actually LIKE going to work in the morning.

One of the few truly depressing thing is the amount of paper we use.

Whihc is my "I saw your post and wanted to talk about myself" way of saying, yeah, I get what it feels like to not want to do your well-paying but unfufilling job, and what it feels like to find the thing that makes you want to get up in the morning.
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kass_rants: smiley[info]kass_rants on April 14th, 2008 07:48 pm (UTC)
Thanks for posting. That's awesome!

It's nice to hear from someone who works in an office and enjoys her work. Working in an office was so contrary to what I needed to be doing that I inadvertantly pity people who have office jobs. Thanks for reminding me that fulfillment is different for different people. =)
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rufinia[info]rufinia on April 14th, 2008 07:52 pm (UTC)
I worked as a temp for a couple years, and as a receptionist while I was getting my masters, and generic office work BORES THE EVER LOVING CRAP OUT OF ME. But the public service/actually using my degree thing, that's fun. Although the funnest part is bullying lawyers.

That isn't to say that I'm not going to go back to school- I'm considering a PhD or law school.



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A Bouquet-throwing Anarchist[info]hugh_mannity on April 14th, 2008 07:44 pm (UTC)
I envy you. I'd love not to be a wage-slave, but I've not found a niche where I could love what I was doing and make a living wage at it. Yet.

BTW -- I posted a picture of my new breeches and cassock yesterday. Next up: moar breeches and a proper doublet to go with them.
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kass_rants: Ass kickin' on the way![info]kass_rants on April 14th, 2008 07:50 pm (UTC)
Yeah. That's the problem. A friend just told me she wishes she and her husband could do what Bob and I are doing, but they haven't found their niche yet.

I wish I could tell everyone what their niche is. I wish I could just come up with a formula for helping you figure it out. But I so nearly didn't figure it out for myself that I have no real clue how to help anyone else do it.

Someday, if I ever figure out how to help people break out of Corporate America, you'll see me on the lecture circuit!
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Kate[info]kyleri on April 15th, 2008 07:53 pm (UTC)
Do Not Give UP. I've been trying to figure mine out for twenty years, and I just finally got it about two months ago.

Already starting to make moneys. :)
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Iseulte of the Red Cliffs: I'm an artist[info]isenglass on April 14th, 2008 08:02 pm (UTC)
I agree. Credit analysis is dead boring. I dread my job more and more every day. I hate sitting at a desk and pounding out paperwork in droves. I miss the creative outlet of being my own boss. Unfortunately, I can't afford to quit and go back into business for myself. I should never have taken this job. I rely on that damn paycheck way too much.
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kass_rants[info]kass_rants on April 14th, 2008 08:20 pm (UTC)
It's not easy giving up a paycheck. To be honest, I didn't make the decision to go full-time with the business. I got laid off and then I got sick and couldn't work for a couple of months. So it was make it with the business alone or lose my house and cars. You'd be amazed what you can make happen if you have no alternative.
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the archaeologist's lackey: women who write[info]windrose on April 14th, 2008 08:06 pm (UTC)
I understand completely. And I had similar lectures from my father, though I was called spoiled and irresponsible along with lazy.

To be fair, he's started to sing a different tune now that I'm actually published. But while I was honing my craft until it was good enough to get published ... hoo boy.
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kass_rants: you've killed me[info]kass_rants on April 14th, 2008 08:23 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I got "spoiled" and "irresponsible" too. But my father's favourite word was lazy.

I really don't think anything would have convinced him that Bob wasn't wholly supporting me all along, not even the news that I hired him.
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Paul Wickham: crusade[info]knightofredempt on April 14th, 2008 08:12 pm (UTC)
9 to 5? nuts on bolts? can't do it, won't do it. I understand totaly where you are coming from. I have tried it many times but as you say the same old same old grows a beard in no time. My main problem is I cannot be told what to do, middle management are my enemy, jobsworth's are a curse. So I will continue to plough my own furrow. I'll never be rich, but I'll rairly be bored. The best thing? no one tells me what to do..they ask, world of difference.
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kass_rants: thhhhhhph![info]kass_rants on April 14th, 2008 08:25 pm (UTC)
I sometimes joke that I'm the worst boss I've ever had -- I wake myself up in the middle of the night with an idea and I have to work; I forget to eat when I'm involved in an exciting project; I don't take off many weekends and I work most holidays. But the truth of the matter is my definition of a "bad boss" is someone who doesn't allow me to work to my potential. And my boss not only lets me work to my potential, but pushes me past it.

Especially when the end of the month comes around...
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Paul Wickham[info]knightofredempt on April 14th, 2008 09:06 pm (UTC)
Aint that the truth LOL. It just proves we were never lazy, just unmotivated.
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kass_rants: thhhhhhph![info]kass_rants on April 14th, 2008 09:12 pm (UTC)
And nothing motivates quite like the end of the month!
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Хельга Энгисдоттир[info]engisdottir on April 14th, 2008 10:42 pm (UTC)
It seems that life is just a struggle between laziness and motivation. (Especially true for students.)
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kass_rants[info]kass_rants on April 14th, 2008 10:46 pm (UTC)
I would not make the mistake of equating a lack of motivation with laziness.
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Paul Wickham: Non Judgment[info]knightofredempt on April 15th, 2008 12:27 am (UTC)
You beat me to it, now if the dude with the fish had said apathy...
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Robert A. Sloan, author of Raven Dance[info]robertsloan2 on April 15th, 2008 06:15 am (UTC)
LOL -- oh I know that feeling.

My family, my current family, does understand that sometimes I wander off onto another planet for a month and I'm living in the Pleistocene. That if I slept till noon I was probably up till six or seven in the morning -- and sometimes they catch me going to bed.

My friend and mentor, Marge Skalecki, who taught me everything I know about being self employed (and it all helps now for my being a writer), had a coffee cup that said "World's Greatest Boss." Buy yourself one. You deserve it -- and a reminder not to treat yourself too badly. Enthusiasm is one thing. Beating yourself up though is a waste of time.

And it does help to actually also have a life, and to get enough sleep. It's good in the long run to pay attention to things like that. You'll get more done.

I think that not being able to work to your potential might be the single greatest problem for most entrepreneurs -- of any sort. Some people don't want to.

I know if I needed a day job, didn't have my day job as cripple, I would want the most boring one I could find, like night security -- especially in a post that let me do my real work while being awake and reasonably alert. I knew a detective novelist who overlapped like that in San Francisco and he was very comfortable between his career and his day job. He didn't want to quit the security job when he got enough from the books to do it, because it was where he came up with his ideas and had become the office he was used to.

When you have to do it your way to do your best, that's an entrepreneur.
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Julie, JulieInTheGreen, "Squire!": Tina Tech Writer[info]brickhousewench on April 14th, 2008 08:49 pm (UTC)
I can relate to so much of this post.

My mom was a teacher, and wanted me to be a teacher. My dad was a mechanical engineer, and wanted me to be an engineer.

My grandmother didn't understand why my parents spent the money to send me to off to school, since "She's just going to get married."

While I don't see myself founding my own company, I too need to have work that I enjoy and find interesting. I've spent 40 hours a week doing things that I don't particularly enjoy, most notably a five year stint in a factory making car parts that paid my way through the last couple of years of undergrad and grad school. I can't see myself doing a job like that for the rest of my life. It seems like a death sentence for my soul.

Recently I have started spending a fair amount of time reading folks who blog about work. You might enjoy reading Penelope Trunk's Brazen Careerist blog or Pamela Slim's Escape from Cubicle Nation.
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kass_rants[info]kass_rants on April 14th, 2008 09:15 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I definitely don't think entrepreneurship is for everyone. You have to be a particular personality type, and there are many personality types out there that the no-paycheck lifestyle will just make insane.

I just find it amusing that, as I read more and more about entrepreneurs, I showed signs of being one at a very young age. If my parents weren't so profoundly blue collar and small-minded in their career world view, I could have founded my company 20 years ago...
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loosecanon[info]loosecanon on April 14th, 2008 10:13 pm (UTC)
In particular, I'm glad you got out of the particular location you were working in.

You remark that you could have opened your own business 20 years ago, but had you done that, would it have been the patterns? What inspired you then?

So many people who wish to open their own businesses try to open something already heavily represented, perhaps of a local nature, such as a plumber, car parts shop, gourmet store. It's hard to think outside the box and create an opportunity, to really build something niche and under-represented.
In that wise, I think the web has probably served you better than it could serve any reseller, who has nothing unique to offer but price.

I'm glad you are doing what you do, though I am jealous of those who can use the product.
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kass_rants: thhhhhhph![info]kass_rants on April 14th, 2008 10:26 pm (UTC)
Well, yeah. There is that. I still have the key to the executive washroom...

I was always inspired by fashion. Twenty years ago it just would have been another aspect of fashion. I was living in Japan at the time and perhaps I would have made some import/export connection with business owners in Japan.

I don't doubt that I wouldn't have had the pattern business 20 years ago, but I would have had some business based on something I was deeply interested in. The entrepreneurical spirit -- the "fire in the belly" -- is the important part of the equation. The kind of business is just a detail, really. My point was that if I didn't spend half my life listening to discouragement against my entrepreneurial tendencies, I would have found a good "outside the box" idea long ago.

As for not being able to use our product, one of the benefits of Bob and Christina's help is that I will soon be producing some products you can use. Watch this space!
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Cedyeus: Orange Doublet of Doom[info]cedyeus on April 14th, 2008 10:51 pm (UTC)
heck, if you had thought of this pattern business 20 years ago, just think of all the horrible eye burning, soul curdling aweful ren faire costumes that I've been subjected to.
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kass_rants: Oh the shame![info]kass_rants on April 14th, 2008 10:53 pm (UTC)
And it's all my fault!
I'm sorry! I'm sorrry I'm sorry I'm sorry! Next time I choose a path in life, I'll remember to hurry up!

;)
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loosecanon[info]loosecanon on April 14th, 2008 11:00 pm (UTC)
men's in larger sizes, please! I'd adore the frock coat for him, but it's too small in the chest.
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kass_rants[info]kass_rants on April 14th, 2008 11:57 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry. This simply will not be happening.

The largest paper width I can get for my printer is 42" wide. The skirts of the size 54 frock coat take up the entirety of that paper width. My printer is the widest format printer of its kind on the market. There is nothing I can do about this.

I am one of the only pattern companies that include ten sizes in the same pattern. I simply cannot include any more sizes in a pattern.

Every one of my patterns includes detailed instructions on how to increase or decrease the size of a pattern to fit sizes outside the pattern's size range as well as how to tailor the garment to your specific measurements.

If this is not enough, I really don't know what to say.
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loosecanon[info]loosecanon on April 15th, 2008 01:47 am (UTC)
That there are instructions on how I can extrapolate up is enough, thank you.
I don't understand sewing/patternwork well enough to know how to size things up, so when I read a firm limit, I believe it as absolute and non-negotiable/extrapolable.
You do amazing work, I respect it, it's just outside my comprehension.
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kass_rants[info]kass_rants on April 15th, 2008 11:02 am (UTC)
Thank you. I want you to understand that I stop at a certain size because of the constraints of my materials, not because I have a beef with people with a chest bigger than 54". =)
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kareina[info]kareina on April 20th, 2008 08:15 am (UTC)
I do all of my patterns for art projects in CorelDraw. When I've got something to print that is larger than the paper my printer can handle (A4, which is similar in size to 8.5 x 11"), I use the "print tiled pages" option, and then tape the pieces of paper together.

If the program you are using has such an option, you could, should you wish to (and if you think there would be enough of a market for it), make a series of "plus size" patterns wherin the *smallest* of the set was for someone with a 54" inch chest, and scale it up from there.

It might take a bit of experimenting to see what the best method of assembling the paper would be--tape,glue, paste etc., and you'd probably have to charge more for that line of patterns due to the extra effort required to put the bits of paper together into the larger sheets. But I suspect that there are people out there who would thank you if you decided to do such a thing.
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Lara[info]laracorsets on April 14th, 2008 10:53 pm (UTC)
Did we have the same Parents???
I so so understand!

(I just got home from my new temporary job and I have not forgotten that I owe Bob an e-mail. Just have to do a bit of research before I send it off to you both. I am so glad you are feeling better!)
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kass_rants: smiley[info]kass_rants on April 14th, 2008 10:55 pm (UTC)
Didn't know your Dad drove a coal truck! ;)

I suppose that people who aren't entrepreneurial have parents who encourage them to start their own businesses or something. That would be just like life...

On the health front, Bob seems to be completely back to normal. Me, I can't swallow without pain and I'm coughing my head off. But at least I'm not just laying on the couch moaning anymore.
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Dravon: Harlock[info]dravon on April 14th, 2008 11:15 pm (UTC)
I'm one of the fortunate ones: I inhereted my entreprenurial spirit and many members of my immediate and extended family are or were business founders/owners. That said, as far as my mom's parents were concerned, it was supposed to be their son who blazed his own business trail, NOT their daughter. When she finally did allow this aspect of herself to prevail, they didn't understand. I got to see her frustration and sorrow at being unable to share this important aspect of herself with them. But at the same time, because of this response I saw in her the determination and the strength it takes to say "I have to follow my own path, I'm sorry you can't understand". Her business was very successful until health issues intervened.

On the flip side, because my mother mentally and emotionally supports me in my endeavors (son or daughter, she cares not), I do not approach starting a business with the same sense of determination and drive to succeed that she does. I don't NEED for it to work. I don't have to prove anything to my parents on this score. I started my first official business at the age of 22. I'm on about my 4th or 5th (I've lost count) named venture, nothing entailing quitting the day job yet, but I'm learning more with every failure. Now I'm finally taking some business classes to try and figure out to harness this spirit so that it's not wandering all over the place as much. Eh, we'll see. *wanders off, still musing*

Thanks again for the post. It's been good food for thought and internal realizations!
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kass_rants[info]kass_rants on April 15th, 2008 11:04 am (UTC)
But you see, I think that "fire in the belly" is an essential part of entrepreneurship. Or maybe I should find a different word for it... It's not that you have to prove anything to your parents or that you need something to provide you with an income. It's that you MUST create and it doesn't let you sleep at night. Your friends get sick of you because you talk of nothing else, and it becomes your all-encompasing desire and reason for getting up in the morning.
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Dravon[info]dravon on April 15th, 2008 07:17 pm (UTC)
I know exactly what you're talking about. Take the analogy of the fire -- if the fire is constantly being food and everything else it needs but it's not given the space, it will burn hotter and fiercer until finally it is given the space. My fire has never been constricted or constrained in the same way, and as a result my own "fire in the belly", the NEED to create my own path, is not ~as~ fierce. In my mom's case, it was bottled up for decades until finally the fire was too strong and burned up the restrictions she was accepting from her parents with regard to what she should be doing with her life. But, of course, that's just my and my mom's experience with this particular archetypal energy.
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Ruth: blue rose: obsessiveicons[info]blaze2242 on April 14th, 2008 11:21 pm (UTC)
This makes me really appreciate my parents, who while always encouraging me to have a 'back up plan' didn't doom my dream of being a professional musician (talk about no paycheck!). I came to my OWN conclusion that I wanted more security then that.

We'll see how that works out. I'm headed to grad school, so I'm still working a two-bit job. (Starbucks, I can moan about the corporate bull-shit with the best of them, though I'm sure I've got it better then most.)
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kass_rants: smiley[info]kass_rants on April 15th, 2008 11:05 am (UTC)
I expect being a professional musician is much like being an entrepreneur. It certainly requires the same "fire in the belly" and unwillingness to quit!
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justawench: jack on rope[info]justawench on April 15th, 2008 03:36 am (UTC)
I'd like to take this opportunity to talk about myself, too. ;)

My dad inherited the family business and Mom was a stay-at-home mom after I was born, so I was never exposed to any "reach for the stars" ideas. I went to college because I had good grades and it was expected, fell into getting a business degree out of lack of any other ideas and ended up working for the mortgage servicing division of a bank after graduation. I'd worked fast food and retail and looked forward to having a "real" job.

I found out very quickly that it wasn't what it was cracked up to be. I was one of two people responsible for overseeing the disbursement of millions of dollars monthly to HUD - for $8/hr. It was boring (pouring over 16 quatrillion lines of data in thousand page reports) and stressful (both dealing with the gov't and my sneering boss) and I only managed to stand it for 3 years. I quit with all intentions of finding another job after taking a break and here I sit, four years later, only now with no real plans of finding a job. :P

I toast you and your ability to do something you love! I hope I find my thing one day.

PS - my great-grandfather drove a coal truck. :)
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Robert A. Sloan, author of Raven Dance[info]robertsloan2 on April 15th, 2008 06:07 am (UTC)
You are so right, and that attitude of work as necessary evil, wage slavery, is exactly that. A form of slavery. It's very common in our parents' generation, since you have a dad who would've been in WWII too. Mine had a college deferment. And they were all about academia and didn't think I could have a life without a degree.

It gets taken for granted by so many people that work is going to be the worst part of your life, that work is not to be enjoyed. That no one gets to live their dream. And so many get bitter, malicious and jealous if they meet someone who chucks it all and does follow their dream.

You're right about the entrepreneur personality too. The same positive traits of independence, stubbornness, responsibility and the ability to make quick decisions make plodding and obedience, submission to authority when it's wrong and getting along without questioning decisions of superiors impossible.

There are people for whom your ideal business would be the nightmare of their lives, who would be happiest in the job you quit. And that's fine. That's how life ought to work, but the mindset of wage slavery leads too many people into bad job relationships as easily as into bad marriages. The terror of unemployment is behind that attitude. That fear comes out of the children of the Depression -- seeing good people who worked hard reduced to starving and begging and unable to find work affected that entire generation.

They can never get enough money to feel secure.

Ironically, in the same economic conditions, an entrepreneur may survive easier than someone working a steady 9-5, because as long as you have your health, you can think of something else to try. You're not limited to standing in line asking for a job. You create one as soon as you see a need for something you do well, and then it's a good one.

Thank you so much for your long interesting post. I'm a writer who's just now getting a good start at my career after years of being sabotaged and sidetracked. I spent a decade in the 80s in wage slavery and have nothing to show for it but a hideously high typing speed, which I could have gained by writing a lot instead.

I was a typesetter, and the job itself no longer exists except for a few elite experts in publishing houses -- and looking at the quality in books and magazines these days, it's being done not by good ones but by low-paid data entry clerks. The sad thing about trading freedom for security is that the security is a lie. These 9-5 jobs don't last 45 years like they did for my grandfather -- they vanish in two to five years and you're looking again if you take that track.

I think you have what it takes to be a great success as an entrepreneur and I'll be curious to see what you do. Good luck with it, and may you enjoy every moment of the process!
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kass_rants: smiley[info]kass_rants on April 15th, 2008 11:12 am (UTC)
Thank you, Robert! Well met and welcome to my LJ.

One of the points I make to my Mum is that NO job is permanent anymore. You can't count on having a job for all of your working years. You're just a drone and the company will cut you first if they start losing money.

When I started my business, it was motivated by a single incident. I had been working as personal assistant to a man who told me he thought giving an employee less than a month's notice if he had to let them go was criminal. And then he had HR call me before work the next morning and tell me not to come back. ?$#(%)#??!?!?!?! They gave me a lot of bullshit reasons, but a friend in HR told me the truth is that the boss's wife called HR and insisted they let me go because I was too pretty!

That day I made a vow: I will never allow the stupidity and insanity of other people affect my financial well-being. And I never have. Even when I lost my day job and almost lost my house, I was the one who made the money to pull it all together. I stopped viewing weekly paychecks as a sure thing, and that changed my life.

What you say about entrepreneurs surviving easier than someone with a steady 9-5 is true. We're always thinking. Our brains never stop. They can't. We always have to be finessing something to keep the bills paid in the dark days.
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Robert A. Sloan, author of Raven Dance[info]robertsloan2 on April 15th, 2008 09:59 pm (UTC)
That's insane. No wonder it radicalized you. That is the extreme of hypocrisy, and you don't even talk face to face with the people who made the decision. It gets dropped on HR to do the deed. This is why even when I did work for other people, I could only stomach working for companies with less than 50 employees. The one that came close to that, in the job I was in, I ran into the owners all the time and worked close to them. Also I was the head of my own department.

Eventually that even meant that I was in charge of the paste up assistant, but it was quiet and sane in the Typesetting Department unlike the rest of the print shop. I nearly quit that job after one year because the main boss, owner's son in law, was a screamer and my stress levels went to where I wasn't getting anything done when he howled at me. I was perfectionist enough on my own. So I told him if he didn't quit yelling at me over typos, I had to leave -- and pointed out that when he did, I'd wind up making more errors all day after that.

He understood the logic of it and in that same discussion he went into his usual rant about "I work longer hours than anyone else in this shop."

I looked him in the eye and said "But I'm here when you get here in the morning and I'm still here when you leave at eight or nine, often to midnight or past it."

His jaw dropped and he never, ever said a damn thing about that to my face again or talked about my being lazy. On my side I ignored it if he yelled at anyone else. If I hadn't already been in a relationship, I probably would've married into the business and I'd still be a typesetter - the owner's family were finding reasons to introduce me to their single youngest daughter in the last two years I was there.

But I think I'm better off now as a writer with a day job as a cripple, part-owner of a print shop wouldn't leave much time for writing. It didn't then either.

You probably still keep finessing during the high times as well as the dark days. I know I do. It's part of the fun of it. Real skills and experience are the surest thing anyone can have to security. I know that I can always do portraits on commission if I have no other resources. Main thing is I don't have the physicality to get out and sell them and it sucks down too much of my time to be a writer if I'm doing that.

But my writing is starting to pay off as high as my art did, so that's where my work is going now. It's natural to keep finessing even in the high times, it stretches them farther and sometimes prevents the dark days from having much impact!

I've got to go friend you now, this is too much fun! And I want to see how your progress goes over time, knowing you will succeed.
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kass_rants: smiley[info]kass_rants on April 15th, 2008 10:42 pm (UTC)
Thanks Robert!

For years and years, I looked for a mentor in business, someone to take me under their wing, show me the ropes, and let me work to my full potential. Now I'm glad I never found such a person. =)

You're right about finessing during the high times too. Sometimes I play this game. When I've met a goal before the end of a month, I set another goal and I make that goal something extraordinary, something I think it just beyond the capabilities of the business to achieve. And when I make that goal, I set another. And another... Sometimes it gets quite frightening because it seems like I can raise those numbers just by daring them that they can't go any higher. I like that. =)
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Robert A. Sloan, author of Raven Dance[info]robertsloan2 on April 16th, 2008 12:51 am (UTC)
Oh yeah! That game is a great entertainment. I do it too. Sometimes I have to scale back the goals if my health goes downhill, but sometimes I can keep scaling them up as I keep recovering. I've applied it to more than career since I got through surgery and had to get used to recovering from surgery.

The planning and organizing is actually enjoyable. I get a big kick out of it when I'm relaxing and looking over my decisions for the week, the month or the year. The time isn't wasted. By the time I get to things, I'm well informed and very oriented to reality about what I'm going to do.

Most of my spending money goes to things that I can earn with. I've been doing that ever since 1990. Art was a day job and a fallback. Recently though, results from my writing and a look at the situation have made me rethink it -- I can't support one artistic career on another one that I don't have a commitment to succeed in.

However, it's not a waste at all, because every one of my art supplies and books is research for me to write How to Draw books, which sell for much more money than science fiction and will make the difference between my being poor but happy, and middle class yet ludicrously too happy for my income bracket. Middle class, compared to most of my experience, feels like filthy rich. And will be in terms of how I manage the money.

I think that most people who wind up compulsive spenders are doing it for two things. One is to be treated with respect, after spending most of their time being treated as wage slaves, harassed, stressed, and abused. The other is to have choices, when in the biggest chunk of their waking lives, choice is taken out of their hands and shuffled upstairs.

Once I first went self employed, I studied my habits. I had been spending like a maniac through the 80s, right into bankruptcy, despite my high earnings, most of it on junk I didn't even keep after the move. I had to replace all of my furnishings because my ex got them after the move.

I spent a lot less and liked and kept what I bought for years till it wore out because I had chosen it and didn't have to discuss the decision with my ex, it all had a lot of personal meaning. I had less money but decided that what I enjoyed was the process of shopping and not where I went -- so I started going to the French Market and thrift shops with spending money on a smaller scale instead of to malls with normal or upscale retail stores.

Weirdly, I found better stuff and most of what I bought was worth keeping till it was used up. The process was just as enjoyable but I didn't need to throw as much money into it to have the fun of shopping. Any entrepreneur has "stuff for the business" at the top of the shopping list, and all of that pays for itself and then does it again at tax time. It's where I got started on the art supplies thing. And now it's cool stuff to write about.

Pretty soon with what I've been doing with it I'll be going one step farther and writing to art supply manufacturers to get stuff to review -- sample sets of this and that, try it out, have fun with it, write it up. Heh. The little luxuries where I get paid instead of even having to buy it probably top the list for frugal!
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Jane Starz: Text - Douglas Adams - Learning experien[info]janestarz on April 15th, 2008 08:20 am (UTC)
I'm sorry to hear that your parents held a different view than you did at that crucial moment in your life. Just at that moment when you needed their support the most.

After quitting college (I wasn't cut out to be a journalist) I stayed at home for a couple of years before I got the icecream job and eventually this job. It struck me as odd that I seem to gravitate towards jobs that inevitably bore me after a few months. IT is at least so ever-changing that there's always something new to learn, though the problems I run into are similar. The curse of being a tester, I guess.

My father never understood Dolle Griet. He said I should just stop living off NoKey's income and get a job. I don't think he ever saw our booth in action. My mother and her new husband were supportive, but only last December did they realise the extent of what we offer in our booth when they came over during a fair and were blown away by our booth.
My stepfather is great, he offered me a loan to get my driver's license (because no-one who runs a business can do without!), has helped me think of avenues, revenues and opportunities, and always has a rational argument that makes an awful lot of sense whenever I have a problem or a wild idea. He's been a thousand times more helpful than my real father, who was visibly exhaled his relief when I got a 'real' job.

Get well soon!

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[info]oogiem on April 15th, 2008 01:32 pm (UTC)
Prompting another batch of musings from here.

I was sort of a wage slave, worked as a systems engineer in high tech and then went to work for the renegades (Advanced Concepts Group, the folks where weird ideas are expected.) But I always kept the animals and was always breeding them, tried breeding tropical fish, not enough market, then reptiles, took too much effort to also breed mice for dinner, and horses, I refused to play the political games it took to get top prices for horses and now finally have sheep and geese. I can do my genetics work and if there is a mistake we can eat them. I can't imagine not being a farmer with livestock now at all. I have had them all my life but I've never really had so much fun until I had a place for everything I bred whether it was someone's farm or a freezer and plate.

We're heading into 3 weeks of major work, when the entire year's plans come to fruition. We deworm the flock tomorrow morning, out on pasture Friday morning and we could have lambs as early as Friday afternoon but more likely Saturday and Sunday. I've got sheep that are round with basketball udders and I just hope they can hold on until they are out on the nice clean pasture!

So for everyone who is still wanting to get out, keep looking, eventually you will find your niche.

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